R: [bod] Re: [amsat-bb] MAROC-TUBSAT -- a review

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From: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@tin.it>
To: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>; RaySoifer <RaySoifer@cs.com>
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Subject: R: [bod] Re: [amsat-bb] MAROC-TUBSAT -- a review


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RaySoifer <RaySoifer@cs.com>
> To: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>; RaySoifer <RaySoifer@cs.com>
> Cc: <amsat-int@AMSAT.Org>; <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>; <moon-net@nlsa.com>;
> <bod@AMSAT.Org>; <ka3hdo@AMSAT.Org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [bod] Re: [amsat-bb] MAROC-TUBSAT -- a review
>
>
> > At 02:11 PM 1/24/02 -0500, Bob Bruninga wrote:
> > >On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, RaySoifer wrote:
> > >
> > > > As always, you're entitled to voice your opinion, which I've always
> > > > considered worth listening to even though I may not agree.  I fail
to
> see,
> > > > however, what possible good can come to amateur radio from having a
> strong
> > > > FM signal on 144.1 MHz.
> > >
> > >But, as of today, I thought it was gone?
> > >
> > >I think most of us at one time or another have made mistakes in HAM
> > >radio (Several years ago I left my PACSAT station once with the uplink
> > >tuned to the local  favorite voice repeater, until a team of DF'ers
> > >knocked on my door!...).  Fortunately we all knew each other and so it
> was
> > >a learning experince for us all...
> > >
> > >I agree, that the FM signal shouldn't be there, but I just suggest a
> > >cautionary approach until we find out more...  A simple call to the
> owners
> > >with a polite comment on the appropriateness of FM in the CW band might
> > >be sufficient.  Maybe the absence of the signal today is because they
> > >have learned of their mistake and have corrected it...?
> > >
> > >A knock-down-their-door approach until we know if the intent is
malicious
> > >(I dont think so) does not leave us in a good negotiating position for
> > >what might come next?
> > >
> > >Bob
> > Bob,
> >
> > I'd rather not take up the bandwidth of all of these mailing lists with
> > what's becoming a repetitive debate, but three points should be made:
> >
> > 1.  The 144.1 MHz transmissions have not been heard for approximately 24
> > hours.  I hope that means they're gone but it's far too early to declare
> > victory.  We don't yet know why they stopped, or if they will resume.
> >
> > 2.  You mention mistakes you've made as a ham.  If I tried to do that
> about
> > myself, there wouldn't be enough bandwidth in the world to accommodate
> them
> > all.  But, from everything I've heard and seen so far, I have no reason
to
> > believe that any of the people in charge of MAROC-TUBSAT are hams.
> Indeed,
> > even the syntax they used in their Morse identifier ("VVV" instead of
> "CQ")
> > was drawn from commercial radio procedure rather than amateur.  As far
as
> > we and our German colleagues are aware, they never made any attempt to
> > contact any recognized amateur radio organization prior to launch, or
> > afterwards.  There is, indeed, an IARU band plan in IARU Region 1, with
> > which the operation of MAROC-TUBSAT on 144.1 does not fit.
> >
> > 3.  With all due respect, let me say again that I don't consider
reporting
> > interference to an IARU Member Society as a "knock down their door,"
"burn
> > them" approach.  I, for one, trust ARRL and IARU to exercise the
> > appropriate degree of discretion in handling these reports.  They've had
> > many years of experience in these matters, and know what they're
> > doing.  That said, it's still important that a documentary record be
> > assembled of any non-amateur interference in our bands, for the reasons
I
> > outlined in my earlier e-mail.  With the help of those who submit
reports,
> > IARU is in process of doing that.
> >
> > 73, Ray
> >
> >
> Ray,
>
> I aegree and ZS5AKV,the IARU Satellite Adviser for Region 1, 2 and 3
should
> do that and i suggest to involve Hans in this problem writing to him at
> hans@intekom.co.za and also to involve Arie,PA0EZ,the Chairman IARU Region
1
> VHF/UHF/Microwave Committee  pa0ez@amsat.org
>
> I know both very well because i was representing Italy as a member of ARI
> in the Committee C5 during the IARU Region 1 Conference,Lillehammer 1999
> and so i have included  both gentlemans in to the list and i am confident
> that they will do a good job to solve problems like this in the future.
>
> 73" de i8CVS Domenico
>
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